Well, here we are at the end of chapter 26! (Right? If you're not caught up yet, just come back to this post when you are. It's not going anywhere.)
Each week, we'll offer a summary of what has happened in the book so far, a few discussion questions and our thoughts. Feel free to add your own questions, answers, or general thoughts in the comments or on your own blog. If you leave the link to your post in the comments we'll add it at the bottom of the post.
Next week, we'll be reading chapters 29-55.
Ok. So here's what's happened so far:
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In chapter one, we meet our narrator, and are invited to call him Ishmael. Ishmael loves the ocean. Or, rather, he explains that to him, going to sea is his alternative to suicide. That's kind of the same as "love," right?
Our new friend Ishmael begins his story. Once upon a time, Ishmael decided to go a-whaling. He used to work on a merchant ship, but that work just wasn't doing it for him anymore and now he wants to kill whales like a real man. On his way to Nantucket, Ishmael stops in New Bedford, where he finds a gloomy old inn to stay for the night. Actually, the inn-keeper informs him there is really no room in the inn, unless he wants to share a bed with a Harpooner. Ishmael hesitantly agrees, and this is how he meets Queequeg, a tattooed cannibal. Ishmael and Queequeg are fast friends and snuggle into bed together for the night. In the morning, Ishmael eats breakfast then visits a church with a strange pulpit and a peculiar chaplain. He listens to a sermon on Jonah and the whale.
Ishmael and Queequeg pal around, hug, and smoke together. That night, as they lay in bed together, Queequeg tells Ishmael about his island and how he came to be a harpooner. The next day, the two set out for Nantucket where all the whaling ships set out from. While on the schooner, Queequeg throws a man up in the air, then saves him when he falls in the water. Queequeg is a hero. Ishmael likes him even more.
They arrive at Nantucket, which is flat, sandy, and has no trees. Ishmael and Queequeg stay at an inn and eat delicious chowder. Queequeg tells Ishmael that his wooden idol told him that Ishmael must choose which ship they should sign up for, so Ishmael chooses the Pequod. He goes aboard meets the owners of the ship - Bildad and Peleg.
When he comes back, Ishmael finds the door to his and Queegueg's inn room locked. He freaks out and thinks that Queequeg is dead. Once he breaks open the door, Ishmael finds Queequeg sitting calmly and worshiping his idol for Ramadan. Ishmael tells Queequeg that his pagan ways are silly and that he should abandon them. Queequeg doesn't respond. Ishmael assumes that Queequeg just can't see outside his own point of view.
The next day, Queequeg also signs up for the Pequod. He and Ishmael meet a stranger named Elijah who warns them about the ships mysterious captain Ahab whose leg was bitten off by a whale.
The Pequod is stocked with provisions and ready to set sail. On Christmas day, the ship goes to sea. Ishmael has still to meet Ahab, who has not come up from below deck. Ishmael goes on a rant about how great and important whaling is, then describes the ship's chief mate Starbuck.
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Soo ... Connie and I noticed that this book starts out kind of, well, boring. Ishmael does not spare us any details. After awhile, though, I started to kinda like the short, contained chapters. It's easier to keep ahold of what's going on especially with those handy chapter titles. It started to grow on me, also (Connie).
How about Ishmael and Queequeg's relationship? Weird, right? Do you think their friendship is genuine? I thought there was quite a bit of homoerotic tension between Ishmael and Queequeg. I'd heard this before about the book, but I wasn't expecting it to be so strong ... it was almost distracting. Do you think Melville meant to do this?
I also noticed that there are a lot of polarities in this narrative. An obvious one is the constant descriptions of both physical and metaphorical light and dark. Why do you think Melville uses polarities like this? I think he does it to echo the Manichean rhetoric of the Bible. Not sure why yet. But yeah. Just a thought.
In chapter 24, Ishmael passionately defends whaling. From our point of view here in 2012, when we no longer use whale oil for light and whales are endangered, what did you think of this chapter?
How did you like Ishmael's narration? Did you like or dislike the fact that he goes off on tangents? I both liked and disliked it. The things Ishmael chooses to tell us say a lot about his character. Often he'll state his opinion, then do the opposite. For example, he says he isn't judgmental of paganism, then proceeds to tell Queequeg that his worshipping is over the top and his religion is silly. Come on, Ishmael.
Something that really stood out to me in these chapters was Melville's religious commentary. You could hardly read a page without some biblical allusion or discussion of Christianity versus Paganism. What do you think he's trying to say about religion?
I think he criticizes Christianity to a certain extent, or at least self-righteous, ignorant Christians, who assume non-Christians are going to hell, even though they themselves don't love and serve their fellow men. He says of Queequeg,
"For all his tatooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal. What's all this fuss I have been making about, thought I to myself -- the man's a human being just as I am: he has just as much reason to fear me, as I have to be afraid of him. Better sleep with a sober cannibal than a drunken Christian."
Then, when he saves the sailor who had mocked him from drowning, he says that Queequeg
"seemed to be saying to himself-- 'It's a mutual, joint-stock world, in all meridians. We cannibals must help these Christians.'"
I marked a lot more quotes like these, so if you are interested, I will share some in the comments.
Furthermore, what do you make of the recounting of Jonah and the whale? What do you think Melville is trying to say about whaling, or about Christianity, by spending so much time recounting this particular Bible story? Or is it merely long because Melville is obviously a fan of great detail and not in a hurry to get through any part of the book?
After telling the story, the preacher says that he does not tell the story "to be copied for his sin" but to advertise him as "a model for repentance." And he describes Jonah's repentance as "not clamorous for pardon, but grateful for punishment." Is this Melville's personal belief? Is it in some way foreshadowing? I found this part very intriguing; I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
I also appreciated Melville's humor. It really broke up the lengthy narrative. What were some of your favorite lines? One of mine was this:
"The urbane activity with which a man receives money is really marvelous, considering that we so earnestly believe money to be the root of all earthly ills, and that on no account can a monied man enter heaven. Ah! how cheerfully we consign ourselves to perdition!"
All right, this is plenty long for one post! We look forward to discussing this further with you in the comments, and don't forget, next week will be through chapter 55.
Your thoughts:
Melissa @ Avid Reader
Shelley @ Book Clutter
Lu @ Regular Rumination
Katie @ Old English Rose
Jerikavonalexandra @ A Very Disoriented Reader
Melissa · 689 weeks ago
The tangents drove me nuts at first, it kept distracted me from the main plot. But once I accepted that style of writing it got better. I let go of the desire to move the story forward.
It felt like Melville was really divided in his views of religion. He does criticize both Christian and pagan religions, but it feels like he also believes strongly in something. I wonder if this book was part of his way of working through those feelings.
Finally, I am so grateful for Melville's sense of humor. The book has some wonderful elements, but without a bit of humor I think it would have felt incredibly heavy.
Here's the link to my first post...
http://avidreader25.blogspot.com/2012/01/moby-dic...
IngridLola14 79p · 689 weeks ago
ConnieGirl 69p · 689 weeks ago
Shelley · 689 weeks ago
I think that Melville brings Ishmael and Queequeg into so many intimate situations to contrast with their otherwise loner lifestyles, and some of the other instances of isolation that are described here and there. I don't know, at this point I'm just keeping my eyes open for this isolation/connection theme.
I loved the defense of whaling. I felt like I was right with him on his soapbox. I think in the present day there is still the danger of either looking down on or just plain forgetting about those who provide services that enhance our quality of living.
I love Ishmael. He is such a hoot, with his dark humor and his wishy-washy ways. Maybe he represents a transition in social attitudes of the time. Trying to think in a more open-minded way, but then reverting to habit.
I'm still thinking about the religious aspect, and I haven't written a post yet. I'll try to get it done and leave a link. Thanks for hosting!
ConnieGirl 69p · 689 weeks ago
I love what you said about Ishmael. I don't quite love him (though he is growing on me), but I think you may be on to something when you said " Maybe he represents a transition in social attitudes of the time. Trying to think in a more open-minded way, but then reverting to habit. "
We'll have to see how his character pans out.
Shelley · 689 weeks ago
Melissa · 689 weeks ago
ConnieGirl 69p · 689 weeks ago
I think it's genuine but complicated.
readingthethings 62p · 689 weeks ago
IngridLola14 79p · 689 weeks ago
regularrumination 48p · 689 weeks ago
Here's my link: http://regularrumination.wordpress.com/2012/01/12...
Woo! Thanks for hosting this readalong. I'm definitely enjoying it so far.
ConnieGirl 69p · 689 weeks ago
Katie · 689 weeks ago
As to the Jonah sermon, for me it tied in with old Christian ideas about the whale as a symbol for hell. It certainly suggests that going chasing after one is probably not going to be a pleasant experience for Ishmael. I say a bit more about it on my post here: http://oldenglishrose.dmi.me.uk/2012/01/14/moby-d...
It intrigues me. I'm not sure that I'm enjoying the book, but that's not the same as saying that it doesn't interest me. It does, and I'm looking forward to reading more. Thanks very much for hosting this!
IngridLola14 79p · 688 weeks ago
jerikavonalexandra 12p · 689 weeks ago
To answer the questions:
I do think that the friendship between Ishmael and Queequeg is genuine albeit strange. :) I really don't know what to think about the homoerotic overtones of their relationship and I have no idea as well why Melville would put it in the book but it must have meaning for him to put it there. I don't know if it would ever be mentioned in succeeding chapters as well.
With regards to Melville's use of polarities, I really don't know the significance of it yet. :)
Melville lends some very powerful words to Ishmael for his defense of the whaling profession. If I wasn't thinking about the present condition and thought only about the time when whaling provided basic needs for people, I'd say that I would agree with his arguments. Whalers needed to be thanked for their contributions.
I love Ishmael's narrations and I do think his going off tangents has some meaning. I don't think that he would just go off tangent for the sake of going off tangent.
With regards to Ishmael's flip-flopping on Queequeg's religious rituals, he did say: "Now, as I before hinted, I have no objection to any person’s religion, be it what it may, so long as that person does not kill or insult any other person, because that other person don’t believe it also. But when a man’s religion becomes really frantic; when it is a positive torment to him; and, in fine, makes this earth of ours an uncomfortable inn to lodge in; then I think it high time to take that individual aside and argue the point with him."
Melville adds a lot of biblical allusions in his book from the names of the characters to mentions of Bible stories in some chapters (Lazarus, Jonah, two orchard thieves). I also think that Melville is rather tolerant of other people's religions and does not mind them at all except for a few times like the passage above where he respects some aspects of Queequeg's religious rituals but could not fathom why he would starve himself.
With regards to the story of Jonah and the whale, I can't see how it connects quite yet. But I do think that it has meaning because to echo what I've said earlier, I don't think Melville would put it in there just for the sake of putting it in there. However, I feel that it is more in relation to Ahab, whom we haven't seen so much.
Lastly, I also don't know what to think yet of the preacher's statements or whether they are a foreshadowing. From a brief summary, we know that Ahab is on a quest for vengeance and I don't know how the preacher's statements would take into account.
Anyway, here is my post on Chapters 1 - 28 of Moby Dick:
http://averydisorientedreader.wordpress.com/2012/...
IngridLola14 79p · 688 weeks ago
jerikavonalexandra 12p · 688 weeks ago
I don't think it was meant to be humorous. Hehe. When I read those words it seemed like those were what Melville thought of religious beliefs which he imparted onto the character of Ishmael. Just a hunch. :)